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latent variable score

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:33 pm
by needpls
hii

1)plz say me how to compute latent variable score with hand,i want to compare with result of pls.

2)lisrel and pls compute latent variable score in diffrent ways or with same formula????



best regards

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:13 am
by Diogenes
Hi,

LV = w1 * MV1 + w2 * MV2 + ... + wn * MVn

Where MV are the manifested variable (indicators) after standardization [(Xi – Mean) / Standard Dev]
and wn are the outer weights.

After compute LV you should to standardize the LV scores to have the “standardized LV socres”, with mean = 1 and s.d. = 1

If you want to compute the LV scores unstandardized follow: viewtopic.php?t=812


Best regards,

Bido

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:46 am
by needpls
hiiii

thx so muchhhhh


but i had 2 question plzzz say my answre about question 2.


latent variable score in lisrel and pls have different way??

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:03 pm
by Diogenes
Hi,
PLS-PM is consistent and consistente at large = as sample size and the number of indicators by LV increase --> the results of PLS-PM tend to be equal the results of LISREL.

LISREL is covariance based = the relations are computed from LV to the indicators, the last thing to be computed are the scores of LV.
PLS-PM is variance based = the relations are computed from indicators to the LV, the first thing to be computed are the scores of LV.

For these reasons, the correlation between scores computed by LISREL and scores computed by SmartPLS should be high, but they will not be the same.

For example (p.192):
Tenenhaus, M., Esposito Vinzi, V., Chatelin, Y.-M., & Lauro, C. (2005). PLS path modeling. Computational Statistics & Data Analysis, 48(1), 159-205. doi:10.1016/j.csda.2004.03.005

Best regards,

Bido

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:33 pm
by needpls
thx so much,

so measure ment error that we have in lisrel in pls is too???

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:38 pm
by needpls
sorry i can not find that article can u upload ??

thx

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:46 pm
by Diogenes

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:24 am
by needpls
thx

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:48 am
by belowzero
Diogenes wrote:Hi,

LV = w1 * MV1 + w2 * MV2 + ... + wn * MVn

Where MV are the manifested variable (indicators) after standardization [(Xi – Mean) / Standard Dev]
and wn are the outer weights.

After compute LV you should to standardize the LV scores to have the “standardized LV socres”, with mean = 1 and s.d. = 1

If you want to compute the LV scores unstandardized follow: viewtopic.php?t=812


Best regards,

Bido
hi bido
for reflective model,how to compute LV score?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:20 am
by Diogenes
Hi,
in the same way, use the "outer weights".

SmartPLS already computes the LV scores, see::
Report / PLS / Calculation results / Latent variable scores /

Best regards,

Bido

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:29 am
by belowzero
Diogenes wrote:Hi,
in the same way, use the "outer weights".

SmartPLS already computes the LV scores, see::
Report / PLS / Calculation results / Latent variable scores /

Best regards,

Bido
but i remember what you said before,the lv scores(original) SMARTPLS computed are not correct? i need compute them by hand?

thanks!

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:49 am
by belowzero
in addition,outer loadings and outer weights are standardized of the report?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 11:45 pm
by Hengkov
Hi,

Yes, choose "mean 0 var 1" for standardized and LVs to standardized (original not standardized).

Regards,
Hengky

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:42 am
by belowzero
Hengkov wrote:Hi,

Yes, choose "mean 0 var 1" for standardized and LVs to standardized (original not standardized).

Regards,
Hengky

i see,thank you!

Re: latent variable score

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:28 am
by behnammousavi
hi
i'm new in PLS and i have a model that i wanna run with pls3.
in my model i have a latent variable that must calculate from 4 other latent variable. in lisrel it could compute latent variable from other latent variable without any indicator but in pls when i want to do such thing it warn me that your model is invalid. is there any way so i can calculate this latent variable is pls?