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Confusion with convergent validity with formative measure

Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:28 pm
by Priyankafox
I understand the example used in Chp 5 of A primer on partial least squares structural equation modeling.

Does it mean we cannot do a test on convergent validity if we dont have a single item global measure that is reflective for our formative construct.

Say my formative construct is safety concern.

However this is no single item global measure for safety concern available in the literature (in fact safety perception is a scale I have developed, lets say) then what do I do?

Does this mean I can't conduct the test??

In this situation, does the research stop because i chose to construct a formative construct that has no single item global measure available in the literature.
Thanks,
Priyanka

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:23 pm
by cringle
Well,

the best option is using a reflective measurement model of the same model. But usually you do not have indicators for both types of measurment models. The second best option - as a workaround and good approximation - is using the single indicator that represents the scale. If you don't have this one, the third best option is using a very similar construct that you have in the measurment model. However, the latter options may only allows you determining if the sign of the relationship meet your expectations. Otherise, you cannot do the test.

Best
CR

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:33 pm
by Priyankafox
Thank you Dr Ringle.

I did the first option and I got a path coefficient of 0.675.

Does this mean my formative construct does not have convergent validity?

I did:
VIF (no issue, all below 5),
t-test of outer weights (some were NS after bootstrapping for a two tail test with 0.05 sig level)
t test of outer loading(all significant)


So now my redundancy analysis indicates a value below 0.8 (Hair et al, 2013).

My questions are the following:
(1) Does this mean my formative construct items do not have convergent validity?
(2) Does this mean I have to delete items (I only have four items)?

Look forward to your reply/and communities. I really need some support on this. I've read other material on formative measurement model but it is not as clear cut to understand as reflective measurement model.

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:52 pm
by Beraza
Dear Dr. Ringle,

Idon't have reflective indicators nor a single indicator that represents the scale. If I use the third option -using a very similar construct that I have in the measurment model-:

1) what do you mean with "a very similar construct"?
2) This similar construct, does it have to be a reflective construct?

All the constructs included in my model are formative, three of them exogenous and another three endogenous constructs.

3) Is it possible to estimate this kind of model in Smart PLS 3 (3.2.3.)?

Thanks,

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:22 pm
by jmbecker
Yes, it is possible to estimate such a model in SmartPLS. However, without any reflective or single item measures it is hard to assess the convergent validity in a reasonable way.

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:55 am
by janschreier
Dear Jan,

in such cases, would you consider a short questionnaire where both reflective and the formative "questions" are asked only for the purpose of assessing convergent validity acceptable if the sample is comparable? I'm not seeking absolution here but just wonder if you would give this a shot, if you find out that you missed some questions in the original survey.

Thanks!
Jan

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:22 am
by jmbecker
Yes, I think that this is a possible solution. Not optimal, but better than nothing. I as a reviewer would definitely value such an approach.

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 3:27 pm
by Beraza
Thanks Jan Michael.
Would you accept as convergentes validity test a Principal Components Analysis in SPSS?

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measur

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:27 pm
by janschreier
thanks for your opinion on that issue, Jan!

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measure

Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 8:27 pm
by Priyaah23
Greetings,

If in case the redundancy value is lower than 0.7, may I know what should I do next?

Thank you.
PR

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measure

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:58 am
by cringle
In that case you may need an additional formative indicator that helps to better cover the domain of formative construct.

Re: Confusion with convergent validity with formative measure

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:28 am
by bhaiterabhai
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